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Jim11h
10-02-2020, 09:13 PM
It's 10pm and on my TV is literally street stock qualifying at Cherokee before WoO redraw and their calling up 604 crate late heats. Y'all breg places like this up too. Track looks nice but absolutely absurd the time management

HIGH ROLLER
10-02-2020, 09:31 PM
It's 10pm and on my TV is literally street stock qualifying at Cherokee before WoO redraw and their calling up 604 crate late heats. Y'all breg places like this up too. Track looks nice but absolutely absurd the time management

Dont watch it then. Go do something else then come back and check in.

BloomerWon
10-02-2020, 10:05 PM
Dont watch it then. Go do something else then come back and check in.

Some folks expect productivity because they are productive... You on the other hand are like a crack whore, always JUMPING around looking for quick satisfaction and completely unproductive in this world.

champion24
10-02-2020, 10:14 PM
Who doesn't like super sportsman qualifying at 11pm on a National racing tour race night?? At least the Woo feature is 1st

NeedforLMspeed
10-02-2020, 10:16 PM
Wait until they do Thunder bomber qualifying before the WoO feature.

If your doing a two day show with a National tour the first day. Stick to basic under card show. 2 classes hotlaps, heat races and features. Keep the side show for the next day.

dirtMAN007
10-02-2020, 10:20 PM
Wait until they do Thunder bomber qualifying before the WoO feature.

If your doing a two day show with a National tour the first day. Stick to basic under card show. 2 classes hotlaps, heat races and features. Keep the side show for the next day.

And then the run what ya brung enduro race !

NeedforLMspeed
10-02-2020, 10:27 PM
I like how they did Thunder bomber hot laps then like 3 hrs later they qualify. Then 2 hrs later they run a 6 lap heat race. All that time and they only run like 12 laps total. lol

HIGH ROLLER
10-02-2020, 11:07 PM
Some folks expect productivity because they are productive... You on the other hand are like a crack whore, always JUMPING around looking for quick satisfaction and completely unproductive in this world.

Thanks always great to see your proud of your offspring dad

BirkyTime15B
10-03-2020, 01:04 AM
I wouldn’t go to this eventually. When specials are in town, one support class period.

Rajflyboy
10-03-2020, 04:46 AM
Cherokee does need to speed things up. Yes yes.

3 wide
10-03-2020, 06:21 AM
These promoters just don't get it they I've got a local track that runs between 8 to 10 classes every week I see people all the time just get up an leave because they got young kids or just tired but all the tracks I use to go to they ran late are all out of business.

Rajflyboy
10-03-2020, 06:37 AM
Run the beginner classes at 4pm. Run the big series races starting at 7 ish.

dirtcrazy4u
10-03-2020, 07:17 AM
Yea after the track is all used up, great idea.

nc mudcat
10-03-2020, 07:24 AM
This is the reason I no longer go to Cherokee, and for that matter, a lot of tracks around NC and SC. One of my favorite NC tracks feels the need to run at least 7 classes, and up to nine, on one night, and I simply won't stay for that. I have seen no pictures from last night, but I feel sure the stands were full, so that just tells the promoter to keep doing what you are doing.

Action10
10-03-2020, 07:37 AM
I've been to a few tracks that run their special and 1 or 2 supports classes first and when those classes finish their entire program, then they run several more support classes. Seems like a simple solution, but I don't see many promoters do that.

johnE
10-03-2020, 07:44 AM
Yes, Cherokee gets so crowded that nobody goes there anymore!

Highside Hustler25
10-03-2020, 08:03 AM
Yea after the track is all used up, great idea.

Couldn't be any worse than the last 15-20 laps last night.

Pennsboro32
10-03-2020, 10:03 AM
Seems like running 54 different types of classes during a national touring event is a southern thing.

FreeBird
10-03-2020, 10:08 AM
This is the reason I no longer go to Cherokee, and for that matter, a lot of tracks around NC and SC. One of my favorite NC tracks feels the need to run at least 7 classes, and up to nine, on one night, and I simply won't stay for that. I have seen no pictures from last night, but I feel sure the stands were full, so that just tells the promoter to keep doing what you are doing.

Agree 100%-would that NC track have 3 numbers in it???

FreeBird

Highside Hustler25
10-03-2020, 10:23 AM
I can't even fathom 6 support classes. I'm skipping Fall Nats @Lincoln because of 4 support classes in 48 degree temps.

kazual
10-03-2020, 05:09 PM
My tolerance of those 1 AM finishing shows was much better when was in my 20s. Not so much now.

nc mudcat
10-03-2020, 05:26 PM
Agree 100%-would that NC track have 3 numbers in it???

FreeBird
Actually, no. That one has cut down to 4 or 5 classes, and they are generally done before 11:00. The one I spoke of is an hour west of there.

3 wide
10-03-2020, 07:54 PM
Seems like running 54 different types of classes during a national touring event is a southern thing.You exactly correct I wish I lived north.

3 wide
10-03-2020, 07:57 PM
I can't even fathom 6 support classes. I'm skipping Fall Nats @Lincoln because of 4 support classes in 48 degree temps.I wouldn't know how to act if I went to a race track with 4 support classes.

nc mudcat
10-03-2020, 09:26 PM
Watching Cherokee's tribal nationals. First feature of 6 just took the green at 10:25. Another long night coming.

nc mudcat
10-04-2020, 06:04 AM
And if you trust Racemonitor's timing, the last feature started at 2:06 am.

dirtcrazy4u
10-04-2020, 06:31 AM
2:06 AM are they still racing ? That's a joke.

bullring
10-04-2020, 07:00 AM
My tolerance of those 1 AM finishing shows was much better when was in my 20s. Not so much now.

Exactly same thing I was thinking. After the races were over, head to bar til that closed so finish time didn't matter. The fan base now is much older and tracks need to take that into consideration and try to finish at a decent time. We don't want to sit there all night. I go to some races by myself and nothing worse than making a long haul home alone trying to stay awake in the wee hours of the morning.

3 wide
10-04-2020, 11:22 AM
Exactly same thing I was thinking. After the races were over, head to bar til that closed so finish time didn't matter. The fan base now is much older and tracks need to take that into consideration and try to finish at a decent time. We don't want to sit there all night. I go to some races by myself and nothing worse than making a long haul home alone trying to stay awake in the wee hours of the morning.You are exactly right I have left race tracks at 2 am an not seen the super race but guess what those race tracks are out of business.So a message to promoters just keep running all nite.

bigascg
10-04-2020, 02:00 PM
I’m with speedy shows, even more so when WoO or Lucas oil is in town, but this was a big weekend for Cherokee, every class paid 2000-4000 over $100,000 payout...they had a lot of cars just makes things run longer, maybe a 3 day show next year, run WoO and 1-2 supports on Friday And have v8 nationals on Saturday-Sunday?

donavon
10-04-2020, 07:32 PM
No Big A on the Sunday...But have part of qualifying on Thursday if you have to ...

Krooser
10-05-2020, 03:48 AM
Just think you get 12 hours of racing without that long drive to Sebring!

CILDirt
10-05-2020, 09:27 AM
There is a reason your momma warns you about that place. Actually several reasons. There is going to be 10 classes, they all qualify, you will be there all night and the LM feature will be one lane. I feel sorry for those local fans.

Rajflyboy
10-05-2020, 09:32 AM
Lucas show ran good back in early summer. I was out of there before 11 pm

fastford
10-05-2020, 09:37 AM
You exactly correct I wish I lived north.

easy fix , MOVE .......

Rajflyboy
10-05-2020, 09:46 AM
You can have the winter and the rust belt politics.

BloomerHarvickFan
10-09-2020, 07:23 AM
Just to show the difference in 2 tracks with the same headliner series, I went to the WoO race at 411 on Saturday. The WoO feature was over by 9:30, and they had 5 support classes.
They just started earlier 6:00 hotlaps, and they hotlap and qualify the lower divisions at the same time, so they are on track only once before their features. Great track, great management. Been to both major series races there this year, and was not disappointed in the least with the way the show moved along.

racincowboy02
10-09-2020, 08:05 AM
I ain't goin to bash Cherokee did they run a lot of classes this weekend the answer is yes but this is one of the biggest weekends of the year cause they honor one of the greatest drivers to ever grace that speedway. The Mike Duvall Memorial is a big race and it honors a great driver and man so to bash them for putting on a show is crazy. I will agree that they did run a lot of classes on Friday night but you knew that goin into the event so if you didn't want to watch the support classes you couldve turned them all off and just kept checking in but it is what it is i was actually watching everything from the high school football game across town and after the game was over i ended up goin and watching the WOO main event and the rest of the show so i was kind of glad they did what they did